The Flaw in the concept of Original Sin

[deosstheguru]

Another one of my musings from another chapter in my book. Please add comments. I welcome them all. Perhaps one of them will help me see the light for I am greatly in the dark and need my eyes opened:

First things first, I firmly believe that it was neither Adam nor Eve’s fault that sin entered this world. Consider this: Adam and Eve’s sin was that they disobeyed God and ate of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Now that is very interesting. Admittedly, God warned them about the tree (Gen 2:15-17).

The interesting thing about all this is that only after eating of the fruit did they become aware that they had done something wrong (Gen 3:6-7).

Now unless my linguistic skills are out of sorts, this suggests that before the act of disobedience, the very concept of disobedience did not exist. Before that incident they were completely ignorant. Put in that context, one begins to realize that the whole affair is rather unfair.
I have a few questions that have always nagged me, and perhaps a few other people. If the tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil was purely the preserve of God, then why did he specifically put it in the Garden of Eden, which was made for man?

Ah, but the garden was not meant for Adam and Eve, was it? They were simply there to look after it on behalf of God, right? But then, What use was a physically edible tree to a spiritual Being like God?If God simply intended man to look after the garden, it follows that he would have put measures in place to prevent them from getting to it. This business of simply relying on obedience is rather fishy. How easy was it for them to obey when they had no knowledge of the difference between good and evil, right and wrong? This raises the question of responsibility. Who was ultimately responsible for the sinful act?
If, on the other hand, the garden was specifically made for man, then that tree had no business being there, unless it was meant to be a test; a Crucible of some kind. If it was a test, I think it was unfair. I mean how fair is it to have a test on a subject you know nothing about? A subject that has never been taught?

[gelo wapa zed]

Another one of my musings from another chapter in my book. Please add comments. I welcome them all. Perhaps one of them will help me see the light for I am greatly in the dark and need my eyes opened:

First things first, I firmly believe that it was neither Adam nor Eve’s fault that sin entered this world. Consider this: Adam and Eve’s sin was that they disobeyed God and ate of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Now that is very interesting. Admittedly, God warned them about the tree (Gen 2:15-17).

The interesting thing about all this is that only after eating of the fruit did they become aware that they had done something wrong (Gen 3:6-7).

Now unless my linguistic skills are out of sorts, this suggests that before the act of disobedience, the very concept of disobedience did not exist. Before that incident they were completely ignorant. Put in that context, one begins to realize that the whole affair is rather unfair.
I have a few questions that have always nagged me, and perhaps a few other people. If the tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil was purely the preserve of God, then why did he specifically put it in the Garden of Eden, which was made for man?

Ah, but the garden was not meant for Adam and Eve, was it? They were simply there to look after it on behalf of God, right? But then, What use was a physically edible tree to a spiritual Being like God?If God simply intended man to look after the garden, it follows that he would have put measures in place to prevent them from getting to it. This business of simply relying on obedience is rather fishy. How easy was it for them to obey when they had no knowledge of the difference between good and evil, right and wrong? This raises the question of responsibility. Who was ultimately responsible for the sinful act?
If, on the other hand, the garden was specifically made for man, then that tree had no business being there, unless it was meant to be a test; a Crucible of some kind. If it was a test, I think it was unfair. I mean how fair is it to have a test on a subject you know nothing about? A subject that has never been taught?

the bible says obedience is better than sacrifice!!the garden was for man to take care of..let me ask you if you have a farm i guess u have every right to plant whatever you want,your keepers or workers cannot tel you what to plant and what not to plant and moreover they cannot eat what you have not told them to eat(gen ch2vs17) and God been the farm manager did that xactly,the serpent(devil)knew(ch3vs1) what good was in that tree and he worked his way around the woman been the weaker vessel
the snake was responsible as well as man who gave in..that is why god cursed the snake and man too!
i hope it makes some sense!

[Logan]

Yes...But Adam and Eve had no Bible...or should i say No Torah...!

Wriiten anyway....

Gelo..Thanks for your opinion, but wouldn't it be fair to say the farm workers have some knowledge of whether to still from the farm or not...?

[gelo wapa zed]

Yes...But Adam and Eve had no Bible...or should i say No Torah...!

Wriiten anyway....

Gelo..Thanks for your opinion, but wouldn't it be fair to say the farm workers have some knowledge of whether to still from the farm or not...?

true logan they had no bible because they spoke directly with God,and they had no knowledge of good and evil because they were sinless
the farm workers ofcourse have knowledge of good and evil and can steal but i used that example just to illustrate that they cannot dictate to you what to plant and what not to plant and what you have forbidden them they shouldn't touch..

[Yung Taikun(Wathafuc)]

The devil and grigori were the first to disobey before Adam was even created. I don't know if the garden of eden was the preserve of YHWH because the devil seemed to have free reign over the place. With regards to being unfair Adam and eve were given a choice and warning.

[Logan]

Yo Taikun...

Who is/was Grigori..?

I don't think i have come across that name.

[Yung Taikun(Wathafuc)]

Yo Taikun...

Who is/was Grigori..?

I don't think i have come across that name.

They are called demons today , they used to be good angels that switched and turned bad

[Kibeazy]

CHOICE. I don't think the tree was there as a test but it was there to give man a choice. Could be that God wanted to let the man know that he had a choice between obeying God or doing what he wanted to do...just as the Devil was not destroyed after he sinned, he was given a choice; decided to challenge Gods sovereignity and God let him try to mount his challenge (e.g the case of Job with the Devil saying man only obeyed when offered Gods blessing)...just why man would think of anything other than obeying God IF the devil had not sinned, I DON'T KNOW.

Question...Did the devil decide to challenge God after man was created or before?

[Logan]

After...

Especially after he saw Eve...

[gelo wapa zed]

After...

Especially after he saw Eve...

hahahahahaahaaa...imwe its you who say the the bible was censored the snake actually had sex with eve!lol